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Post by mnpestcontrol on Aug 9, 2011 17:25:40 GMT -5
i wil field test any lure that you guys are makeing out there
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Post by yoteman on Aug 9, 2011 18:20:22 GMT -5
Me to and will keep records and feedback
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Post by ScottRainbolt on Aug 9, 2011 18:32:25 GMT -5
ok guys im not a lure maker i would want to know whats your ain target on your line i would hate to send a yote lure to a coon trapper or a beaver lure to a fox trapper how many sets you run on a avg year and maybe how long you been trapping. these lure makers depend on these lures for there income so you could say there trusting there income on there tester . but im not a lure maker but thats what i would want to know
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Post by cdr on Aug 9, 2011 18:48:13 GMT -5
I agree with Scott. Fellas, I'm not discouraging you as I have done the same thing. Let me help you a little in your quest. Have the abilities to make good catches. Have the "location" to test the lures/baits that you are wanting to test. Have the animals (cant test a cat lure if they are not in your trapping area). Be honest and truthful with your disclosure of any findings involveing these lures/baits. Be public about the pro's and cons of these lures and baits (consult the "maker" with the shortfalls of them before going public with your findings in case you used them incorrectly). Post pics of catches with these products---I dont mean one or two pics, create a whirlwind of interest in the products by multiple pics of muliple catches(keep in mind the honesty and truthfullness part). Talk with other trappers to promote these items if you like them. If you dont, remember that you have to rule out all human error before you can say they are no good....lol And that my friends is not an easy thing to do! Let these bait/lure makers know what you are capable of doin numbers wise and give them some history of your involvement in trapping. Let them know if you belong to a state organization and if you are willing to promote these products at those meetings. Scott is giving you some good advise. He and I both have tested and promoted products in one way or another. Anyone can use a lure/bait... but to test one means dif conditions, dif sets, sometimes dif states, dif species, dif terrain, the list goes on and on. You take upon a big responcibility when you "test" for someone! As Scott stated, they derive income from the sales of these products. They have invested time and money in the making of these items. The maker needs facts from proven trappers that will deliver the desired outcome of their products if it is possible.
But what the heck do I know... I am a hobby trapper.... Good luck guys...
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Post by minifoxer on Aug 9, 2011 19:33:32 GMT -5
X2!!! Very well said scat and cdr. I was thinking the exact same things.
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Post by mnpestcontrol on Aug 9, 2011 19:37:39 GMT -5
okay then
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Post by yoteman on Aug 10, 2011 9:31:14 GMT -5
thats good info
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Post by ScottRainbolt on Aug 10, 2011 11:53:00 GMT -5
pestcontrol im not tring to tell you not to be a tester if you took it that way im sorry just saying these guys may want to know what you trap and how long you been at it
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Post by trappergreen on Aug 10, 2011 12:00:05 GMT -5
Then there's guy's like myself who have been making lure for 30yrs. Don't sell commercially and never will, do to lack of quallity ingredients/costs,etc. but we still like to spread our wares to the kind folks who will give us the feedback. It's a great feeling when someone else doe's well on your own concoctions too.
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Post by lyonch on Aug 10, 2011 12:05:21 GMT -5
Pest - here is the first test for you, take that k-9 lure i gave you and test it!! Report back everything you noticed with pictures, and maybe then maybe someone will like the how you did it and they will send you some of their own stuff to test!! Just and idea for you to get yourself started!! Good Luck!
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Post by barrynl on Aug 10, 2011 12:10:54 GMT -5
I think a test of a lure, like any other kind of experiment must have controls to limit the human factor.
For instance say you are testing a lure from your favorite blender and one from a new guy who you no nothing about.
You are going to make 20 sets. To determine which one is the best.
The only way I could see to do it is to make 3 sets in each location.
One with your favorite, one with the new guy, one with no lure what so ever.
Then you have to record all results over a long time, and keep records.
This does not rule out all human bias, but it should help.
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Post by BlueRidgeTrapper on Aug 10, 2011 12:33:49 GMT -5
I've "tested" quite a few lures and baits for folks....you better have your ducks in a row if you want them to let you "test" anything else for them. "Testing" that lure on 4 sets over the course of a year doesn't cut it Jack....I run anywhere from 50....75.....up to 100+ sets depending on the time of year and what the weather is like. You need to keep track of what you're doing, why you're doing it, and how you did it. I hope you guys aren't seeing this as a way to get "free" lure because it isn't. Testing a lure comes with responsibility and some legwork as well. That lure maker doesn't want to hear "Yep, it worked" or...."Nope, ain't worth a hoot". He wants facts to backup whatever you tell him verbally....a copy of your records is the easiest way to do this.
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Post by mnpestcontrol on Aug 10, 2011 15:04:11 GMT -5
Okay thank you guys i will do it all and chris i will let you know if i get anything on it what should i use it for?
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Post by lyonch on Aug 10, 2011 15:19:58 GMT -5
it says k-9 on top of the bottle for a reason fella (at least i think i wrote it one there LOL). Check out the beaver tail oil thread in the lure and bait making section of the forum. There is a lot of good infor on that lure in there!
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Post by dtraper on Aug 14, 2011 14:12:45 GMT -5
This is my first yr. in the last 7 Im trying out new baits and lures..trying to go outside the box so to say and not to get stuck in it..I myself buy the lures/baits I try and if it does not work for me there cant be any hard feeling,if someone asks they will get a straight answer,the baits this yr are going to be tried in northern Ill and back home,will post the results but only if the bait/lure maker agrees.
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Post by cmr2 on Aug 15, 2011 20:20:48 GMT -5
Think thats why I just buy mine ,I know log books are the way to do it and after the season starts and it dont make it past the first couple rains/slpash s or swims so Im not one to back my books up at the end of the day or buy a water proof notebook
I don't say that a lure/bait dont work but rather I couldn't get it to work and understand that not everyone gets the same effect of them ,or there would only be only lure maker and theres more than one can try in a life of trapping
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Post by sniperbbb on Aug 15, 2011 20:38:05 GMT -5
Think thats why I just buy mine ,I know log books are the way to do it and after the season starts and it dont make it past the first couple rains/slpash s or swims so Im not one to back my books up at the end of the day or buy a water proof notebook Thats why you should update your logs when you get back in the truck instead of taking it on the line with you.
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Post by mnpestcontrol on Aug 15, 2011 20:42:57 GMT -5
haha
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