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Post by Marc on Dec 24, 2010 10:17:17 GMT -5
went out to check my snare and there has been no recent activity but i found some more prints on my back property line. it crosses over in a nice little patch which im still trying to figure out how to set another snare in, and it fallowed my tire tracks over to my dirt hole set and nosed around over there for a while and then it came back fallowing my tracks and went right into the corner where 3 tree lines met but it couldnt get though due to a fence so it double backed and slipped across the property line. in between 2 trees. my snare set (my snare is about 12 inches across) this is where it came onto the property (now that i look carefully there are tracks going both ways) this is where it left my property (there may have been more than 1 animal due to these tracks fallowed my tracks too and werent there yesterday)
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Post by chinook on Dec 24, 2010 10:36:56 GMT -5
Looks like you have some good spots for more snares.
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Post by Marc on Dec 24, 2010 10:40:46 GMT -5
i need a spot to anchor to, my snares are only about 4ft long then when my loop is the size i want it and i have it anchored its less than 3ft long
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 24, 2010 11:13:39 GMT -5
i use wire...but then again ive never tride it on yote only beaver
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 11:38:47 GMT -5
second picture marc were the weeds chock down set a snare there...
remember this with only a couple traps and a few snares it's going to take a while because they have a lot of ground to cover over...DO NOT WAK CLOSE TO THAT SNARE STAY BACK .WALK JUST TO THE POINT YOU SEE THE SNARES AND LEAVE
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 11:42:10 GMT -5
MARC i amost forgot yots travel in groups
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Post by Marc on Dec 24, 2010 12:09:38 GMT -5
bill, what can i use as an anchor and how would i the snare, would i have to set a stick sticking up out of the ground? and hang the snare off of it, i also have a couple of t posts i could drive in the ground if those would work for an anchor but i figured the scent from it would deter the yotes from using that path
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 13:31:35 GMT -5
marc here they travel in groups but not always ..marc use a stake like you made for the trap..use a number 9 gauge support wire.do not put a stick in the ground remember you have a relaxing lock law.if they get tangled up they will kill the animal and you could get a fine.even relaxing locks can kill the animal under the right conditions.
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Post by furfishgame on Dec 24, 2010 13:52:45 GMT -5
where it goes between the 2 trees, cut a pole, and nail it on there and hang a snare form it.
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 14:03:07 GMT -5
where it goes between the 2 trees, cut a pole, and nail it on there and hang a snare form it. furfishgame marc has a relaxing lock law means no in tanglement if he uses a pole he could run in to trouble .in alaska were the laws are more relaxed yes he could but not in marc's case
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 24, 2010 16:50:37 GMT -5
im in indiana marc and i run snares for beaver and coon if the snare kills the animal your fine, as long as it was set up according to law. i got an otter on a snare which is agianst law to catch, so i had to call dnr told them it was snare set for beaver they took the otter and on they went. just be sure to have the relaxing locks. the best way i found to set snare is to use a 10 foot slide put one end around a tree and through the loop leave the other end loose, or attatch to a heavy weight, then attatch the snare to the slide take a stick or rebar set it beside the trail put some #11g wire on it to hang the snare, i put the wire right into the wammy
snares are easy to set i use sticks cause it saves me from carrying allot of rebar just bring wire and small cutters if i get a chance ill get you pics of how i set mine.
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 24, 2010 16:52:40 GMT -5
also you can use old snares to make longer cables to attatch to. so save your old used snares
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 16:56:19 GMT -5
NATHANY GOOD TIPS
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 24, 2010 18:53:42 GMT -5
as i was taught by snareman and others KISS keep it simple stupid lol 10 foot slides can be bought at f&t for a very good price they can be made to.
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Post by Marc on Dec 24, 2010 19:27:02 GMT -5
now what exactly is a slide?
i have an idea for how to set a snare in open grass, i just need to get some rebar and a welder.
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 20:17:06 GMT -5
it's a cable that is set up like a drower used for coon ,otterand beaver it' anchor at both ends to get the animal eather out of site or to get the animal off the trails. by doing this it saves the trails for more animals can be caught and it can be used with both snares and traps..i am trying to locate the picture .i know i have one on my site some were
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 24, 2010 20:21:44 GMT -5
Snare & Cable Restraint Loop & height Chart
Snare & Cable restraints loop and height
coon 6-8 inch loop/ 4 inch high fox 8 inch loop /8 inch high coyote 10-12 inch loop/10-12 high beaver 10 inch loop/2 inch high
beaver tail snared full loop / bottom of snare on ground (using a five ft snare)
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Post by chinook on Dec 24, 2010 21:08:24 GMT -5
second picture marc were the weeds chock down set a snare there... remember this with only a couple traps and a few snares it's going to take a while because they have a lot of ground to cover over...DO NOT WAK CLOSE TO THAT SNARE STAY BACK .WALK JUST TO THE POINT YOU SEE THE SNARES AND LEAVE X2 man that's a great looking spot. The firs time I saw it, I had to look twice to make sure there wasn't a snare set there. I'm going to set some cable restraints here in Pa. next week. This will be my first year trying it so I'm no expert, but I practiced enough to know that #9 wire works good , it's stiff enough to support the snare, but it's flexible enough so you can bend it and get it to the right height. Good luck.
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Post by Marc on Dec 24, 2010 23:18:06 GMT -5
it's a cable that is set up like a drower used for coon ,otterand beaver it' anchor at both ends to get the animal eather out of site or to get the animal off the trails. by doing this it saves the trails for more animals can be caught and it can be used with both snares and traps..i am trying to locate the picture .i know i have one on my site some were i get what your saying, so i want the cable staked on both ends and i want it running across the path correct?... thats what i am getting from this reply also if i do a set like this how do i set the loop 12 inches above the ground or is that where the #9 wire comes into play and you stick it in the ground and it hols the loop at the desirable height?
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 25, 2010 8:59:29 GMT -5
im getting ya a picture...stay tuned......
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Post by Marc on Dec 25, 2010 9:04:56 GMT -5
well im waintg *tapping foot*
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 25, 2010 10:31:09 GMT -5
ok i got pics. hope they help 1. here the snare is attatched to the slide i use wire for coon but key rings work great to 2. up close shot on the snare attatched to the slide 3. now i put the snare and the end of the slide around the tree and through the loop. ( or you can use a stake through the loop) 4. now i slide the snare all the way to the end ( make sure it is set so it slides down easy the long part of the L lock needs to point the way you want to slide you can see in that pic the long part of the L lock is ready to slide down. 5. i stake the other end or you can leave it but i norm use a stake my stakes are long so i can leave some sticking up to mount the support wire to 6. i attatch the support wire 7. i hang the snare 8. my loop is a little big but you get the idea. 9. here is the back shot the trail is to the right of the snare and im attatched to the tree the snare slide is staked to the left of the trail i wouldnt put the slide across a trial hope that helps any ? ask.
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 25, 2010 10:36:27 GMT -5
you can also hammer the stake all the way and use a stick to attack the wire to or you can get 9g wire and just use the wire i had 14g laying around so thats whta i used double it if you do use 14g in the pic i just used 1 but if i was really setting that to trap ide double the wire to make it stiff
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 25, 2010 11:09:28 GMT -5
there is only one problem with that set up ..many times the animal will wrap around the stakes and will destroy the locations but it is a great piece of work..what i would do is make sure the stake is flushed with the ground.i also would not add the support wire to that stake i have had problems with animals tangled iin it has well.take you a 16 penny nail and put support wire on it drive it in till it holds..if they get tangle up in the support wire it pops up and slides down the cable with the animal
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 25, 2010 11:21:19 GMT -5
yep bill your right. i just set it up like that cause i was in a hurry thats why i said you can nail the stake all the way down and use a stick to put your support wire and hang your snare
the man thing was i was showing how to use the slide. i hammer the stake down ( if ) i use one i dont always. but i always use a stick with wire rather then the re bar
but you get the idea.
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 25, 2010 12:13:36 GMT -5
nathany93 i understand the concept .both will work and this will give marc better ideas to work with
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Post by Marc on Dec 25, 2010 14:49:22 GMT -5
yes this definitely helps me out, i have found some more spots where they cross over so i will apply this method to my arsenal of sets.
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Post by bill1958 on Dec 25, 2010 15:05:19 GMT -5
marc if you keep looking i bet you even find more and more cross overs.don't over look the thick cover.i found 11 one year in thick cover these were at the fence line..
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Post by Nathany93 on Dec 25, 2010 15:38:36 GMT -5
glad it helped ya. like was said best to nail the stake flat and use a stick or osmething to hang your support wire and snare any questions feel free to PM me
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Post by Marc on Dec 25, 2010 16:05:10 GMT -5
one thing i know for sure is along my back property line i have atleast 6 spots where i can set snares and 1 spot where i can set a foot hold with a urine post and i feel i will have some productivity but i need the some more cable amd the support wire before i can set anymore snares and some fox or yote urine to set my urine post.
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