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Post by bill1958 on Apr 3, 2011 15:53:46 GMT -5
well i guess i hit the head of the nail when i said it was . dobbins and jamison lures is going up next season so eather stock up now or pay the higher price later.
there is a thread on tman speaks of this in the general talk board
dobbins lure prices next season
1 oz $5.50 4 oz $18.00 pts $60.00
another thing is learn to make your self ,in the lure and bait section and the archives
i still feel this will hurt the kids,beginners and the ones on fixed income
good luck on what ever you do.
on side note many urine collectors are getting out of the bussiness or raising thier prices on urine. bob jameson lost his urine dealer for next season so you might start watching your sources real close.i for one will start buying urine from yotekillerbill as we need to help these small dealers to fill in the gap of those we lost
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Post by cdr on Apr 3, 2011 18:09:43 GMT -5
I noticed this the other day on Tman. Guess I'm going to have to raise my prices as "lure/bait tester" so I can keep up... lmao Everything else in the world is going up on prices... so its no wonder the trapping related products are also....
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Post by bill1958 on Apr 3, 2011 19:24:23 GMT -5
lmao so you want a raise well i can't afford it right now..paying to much for glands, 100.00 lb for castor 40.00 oz of pure skunk essence and for the record i have two tons of castor ready to grind so you see i can't afford it this year.
what i don't understand is when they buy glands from trappers they set a price so if they are over priced then whos at fault here not the trapper same deal when you trade glands for lures.i don't buy in to that bs.
now when a dealer of a products goes out of a bussiness then it can up the price on the product.when a dealer corners the market they control the price thats why they made the monoply laws to prevent this from happening and beleave it or not this same thing still goes on.when a dealer buys or trades lures for your glands they have full control on the price they pay that gives them right for a reasonable product for the market so i feel thats wroung.now time,bottling and labels yes they do need to adjust if they need to.the price jumps don't happen over night.
lets say you trade 1 pint of glands for lure what you get is four oz of lure so that gives the dealer 12 oz for the market now times that by a couple hundred trappers and that adds up on extra glands which should cut back on the exspence to the manufactor. if lures was 16.00 for four oz in the past and now hit 18.00 per four oz thats a extra 2.00 cost now add that up for a couple extra thousands then i say bs i don't buy in to that as a rise in cost more on a profit margin.
again depends on were it's shipped from .now over see shipping means tons of red tape and paper work and the shipping charges will kill you.some want sale to a woman period as they don't like to deal with a woman.if thats the problem then yes i can see that happening and the price hike.
if you take 2.00 extra and times it by 1000 you get 2000.00 now with higher volume dealers lets say $2.00 times 5000 you get $10,000.00 so were is the extra cost goes.
i stay on top of this so i know whats going on all the time and let me say this i will not goe up on lure prices.also think on this as well they buy whole sale which means they get the product cheaper BUT they must pay all the cost for shipping .
if you want to learn when things goe up keep a eye on your shipping here and over seas then you will know more as the lures goes up.
the key on this is when 1 things goes up so will the rest and it all has to be in the form of shipping
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Post by Furtrader on Apr 7, 2011 7:27:29 GMT -5
they better be making them lures better and catch me more fur to be chargin more! hahaha
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Post by Forrest on Apr 7, 2011 7:51:13 GMT -5
It was bound to happen and no doubt will happen again.. Times are changing and it cost's more to do things today than it did 10 years ago so I can see the need for the inflation..
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Post by tmrschessie on Apr 7, 2011 9:02:55 GMT -5
Now would be the time to lower the price and increase sales. Not only folks like myself that are on a pretty well fixed income and younger folks that have limited spending cash also, will be going B2B....Back to Basics....Bill you will be getting me for a buyer when I can afford to put money out for products. Inflation is the net result of this continued price increasing....Tom
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Post by bill1958 on Apr 7, 2011 11:14:41 GMT -5
forrest i agree things are going up every day but if you watch the shipping it's always the first to goe up ,then the rest.
tom thank you and you are right.this was my main concern was kids ,beginners and people on fixed income.if i can help it i want let this be a rich mans sport and with Inflation is the way it is ,thats were it's heading.
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Post by Furtrader on Apr 8, 2011 7:00:23 GMT -5
unfortunatly brothers, EVERYTHING is becoming a rich mans deal. With gas as high as it as were all gonna be forced to stick closer to home or not go at all. I almost didnt even go to the fur sale because of gas prices. i went cuz just getting to see everyone is worth all my fur. i love talkin with the OLD OLD timers and meeting the new guys. All i can say guys is, cut corners where ever you can. a penny saved is a penny earned. it all adds up.
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Post by jtdaniel on Apr 9, 2011 9:56:10 GMT -5
What I am about to say is not meant to be inflammatory but if lure goes up it should not stop beginners or fixed income folks. Too many people use lure as a crutch there is more then one way to skin a cat and even more ways to catch one. Use more blind sets learn to use bait(not bought but things like canned fish and other such items) just because your lure purchases need to be trimmed because of cost does not mean your trapping should be slowed. Lure has reached a level of importance it does not deserve in trapping IMHO. Hype and advertising has always given lure mythic abilities that often are undeserved.
PS I have used lures made by some here like Forrest and they are top notch. I am not trying to say lure is unnecessary but often over exaggerated in importance.
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Post by Forrest on Apr 9, 2011 10:27:21 GMT -5
I agree John.. Lure is like "glue" if your set is on location, trap is placed right, the wind is played right then lure can seal the deal but without all the other elements falling into place there is no need for lure as if the trap placement is off it can and most often will result in a miss and if you are not on location then chances are your running a trap rust experiment not a productive set. A off location trap is highly unlikely to connect regardless of what magic lure is used.. If all my factors fall in my favor I do feel good lure at least gives me more confidence that I will get the attention of the target animal...
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Post by jtdaniel on Apr 9, 2011 10:46:43 GMT -5
Well put Forrest I agree with that. When I started I used allot of sardines to catch coons. Where I made the set and how I used the trap was way more important then the brand of sardines I used but I do prefer a certain brand and type of sardines LOL.
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Post by natedawg on Apr 9, 2011 13:24:31 GMT -5
jt what is the magic brand?
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Post by jtdaniel on Apr 9, 2011 14:02:19 GMT -5
LOL starkist smoked in oil.
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