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Post by Forrest on Jan 20, 2011 19:27:24 GMT -5
Jaw lamination's put the pressure of the jaws over a larger area of the foot allowing blood flow. When a foot is restricted of blood flow it goes numb a animal will work the trap much harder with a numb foot as it can not feel the pain. On animals like coon it will prevent chewing as a numb foot is much more likely to be chewed on than one with full feeling.. Offset traps are also useful in aiding in the flow of blood but are not as practical with animals that have a tapered foot like a coon. Double jaws are another option that are good on those tapered foot animals..
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Post by minnesotascott on Jan 20, 2011 19:32:52 GMT -5
A word of cation, if laminating coil spring traps, if you do not 4 coil make sure the springs are good strong springs. Laminating does add a bit of weight to the jaws which can make the trap slower.
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Post by Forrest on Jan 20, 2011 19:40:02 GMT -5
Very good point Scott
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Post by Fluff747 on Apr 1, 2011 21:23:15 GMT -5
here is a tip for cheap lams , go to a farm auction and buy the 3/16 welding rod doesnt matter if the rod has been wet or not , use a wire wheel on a bench grinder to buff off old flux , I but 40 to 50 lbs for a coupple bucks and can do alot of traps with it
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Post by natedawg on Apr 8, 2011 19:06:19 GMT -5
I was trying some things out last night and laminated a Montgomery #2 dogless with 1/4" square stock and it definitely slowed the trap down. Brand new Montgomery springs, but it needs 4-coiled now.
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Post by MNCedar on Apr 29, 2011 13:06:09 GMT -5
I am now a firm believer in jaw laminations for K9's
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Post by mikespring on Apr 29, 2011 15:13:58 GMT -5
20d nail, cut the head off...good for most #3 size traps and smaller.
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Post by lyonch on May 2, 2011 10:40:12 GMT -5
i use #9 wire when i laminate traps. Good discussion guys on why to do it too!
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Post by Law Dog on May 3, 2011 14:03:01 GMT -5
I only use O/S traps on land for the following reasons! 1. Least amount of foot damage on a target animal. 2. Little to no damage on a smaller non-target critters. 3. Will still hold other furbearers with less foot issues than a regular jaws. 4. The levers ride higher and the jaws hold better with the added space between them. 5. A great PR tool for the thought put into the release of non-target critters.
Setting off-set jaws take a certin confidence lever on the trappers part, as a new trapper may think he needs "everything in the book" working for him when he is just getting started. A properly bedded trap will make a good catch no matter what the jaws are!! IMO
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Post by stealthbear on May 6, 2011 14:50:00 GMT -5
I only use O/S traps on land for the following reasons! 1. Least amount of foot damage on a target animal. 2. Little to no damage on a smaller non-target critters. 3. Will still hold other furbearers with less foot issues than a regular jaws. 4. The levers ride higher and the jaws hold better with the added space between them. 5. A great PR tool for the thought put into the release of non-target critters. Setting off-set jaws take a certin confidence lever on the trappers part, as a new trapper may think he needs "everything in the book" working for him when he is just getting started. A properly bedded trap will make a good catch no matter what the jaws are!! IMO this is a good answer. last fall I had to release the neighbors dog that got in a coyote set on my own property. there was no paw damage.
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Post by Law Dog on May 7, 2011 20:28:37 GMT -5
Yes, a wider jaw with off-sets is a very good choice for land sets at least in my area!
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Post by Fluff747 on May 14, 2011 17:32:54 GMT -5
all my cat & coyote traps are off set and inside /outside lammed , it does go a long way in the PR part of trapping with some land owners , Good point Jerry !
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Post by minnesotascott on May 14, 2011 19:19:34 GMT -5
Do offset jaws make pull out easier? Just my thinking, with wet fur an animal might be able to "Slip Out" easier. I have never used offset traps so I dont know.
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Post by Law Dog on May 16, 2011 22:13:40 GMT -5
Do offset jaws make pull out easier? Just my thinking, with wet fur an animal might be able to "Slip Out" easier. I have never used offset traps so I dont know. On the off-set wider jaws and the 4 coil on the traps keeps this from being a problem. The higher ride up on the levers makes for a great holding trap with a gentler hold on a good pad catch. If you are having a toe catch issue its a bedding problem more than a trap hold issue so the type of trap would make little difference!!! IMHO
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Post by lyonch on May 18, 2011 16:06:03 GMT -5
Do offset jaws make pull out easier? Just my thinking, with wet fur an animal might be able to "Slip Out" easier. I have never used offset traps so I dont know. On the off-set wider jaws and the 4 coil on the traps keeps this from being a problem. The higher ride up on the levers makes for a great holding trap with a gentler hold on a good pad catch. If you are having a toe catch issue its a bedding problem more than a trap hold issue so the type of trap would make little difference!!! IMHO x2 good post Law Dog!
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