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Post by yoteskinner on Jun 17, 2011 20:52:31 GMT -5
Ok goin to try out some Yote snarin this year... This will be my first time hangin cable and have a few last questions i can't seem to find answers too...
I'll be out in the sand hills mainly setting cattle trails so there will be really no cover and grass isn't tall or thick....
So what are u guys doin with the extra cable and extension cable? burry it off to the side?
Also what would u use for your snare support? would 9 ga wire alone work? I looked at some snare supports with wire welded to the top but i think they would REALLY stick out
Also What kinda lock do you guys like? i want sometin that will put them down fast.. i've made up 6' extensions and plan on runnin 5-6' snares on 1x19, 5/64th cable
Any other info you would like to add too is great!
Thanx guys!
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Post by cmr2 on Jun 17, 2011 21:09:12 GMT -5
not an expert and hope someone in you area pipes up for ya
the cattle trails have funnal piont's like washes ,draws,pass a weed clump (?) really may not need the extenions but you can still use them and on the ground in the grass ,the pole can be put out a few steps away from the trail to perserve it ,and anchor the end so that the pole is inbetween the set and anchor for warp up
9 wire works and I like using it but it has some pro's and cons ,but works great for stands painting you supports and dipping(f-1 or such)/painting your snares may be needed
bread ties or florest(sp) wire for putting a weed on the support so it looks like the area ,here my have a clump of weeds that are higher than the rest of the grass ,
As for the locks you need to check your regs to see what your limits are ,i.e relaxing,restraints,or if you can use stingers/dispatch springs ,without the regs may have a wide open chioce or a very limited chioce ,but stay in the safe zone
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Post by desertrat on Jun 17, 2011 21:10:27 GMT -5
I am no pro but have taken my share, I use 5/64 with a cam lock and breakaway the extension is 3/32.
If you are going to set cattle trails use a breakaway, you don't want any cows or deer in your snares.
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Post by Law Dog on Jun 17, 2011 22:04:40 GMT -5
Just look at 3/32 you will get more chewouts with the smaller cable size. 9 Ga wire will work just fine just make a loop on the bottom so it goes down then up and the has a spike going back down! You can drive a stake into the ground to make a hole and the spike keeps it from turning. I like the Hoffman locks here but they need a deer stop to be legal, the Gregerson lock is a breakaway so no deer stop is needed with it here! If you have any "buckbrush" its a great place to set were several deer trails come together at. If not just a little grass off the side of the trail will work to hide the support. Hope this helps!!!
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Post by yoteskinner on Jun 17, 2011 22:29:11 GMT -5
How about loading the snare?? From what i read on dakota line snares... its a twist in the cable that makes the loop more round and allows the lock to fall faster...
Dose any one do this?
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Post by kirk on Jun 17, 2011 22:42:27 GMT -5
I load all my snares and recomend loading to anyone who is making there own snares some of the better snare suppliers preload their snares before selling them
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Post by alwright on Jun 18, 2011 4:17:56 GMT -5
Around here when the cattle are in a field I snare the fence lines. If concerned with deer use your snare support and back off away from the fence or use breakaways at the fence or Gergerson locks. I use 3/32 7x7, #9 support with Pogo anchors and camlocks or Ambergs with spring. Check your state laws for them locks.
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Post by barrynl on Jun 18, 2011 6:24:28 GMT -5
Loading snare's can be tricky, be prepared for some foul ups at the beginning of your snare making career. If you use 1*19 cable loading is not so important but with 7*7 it is.
Is it legal to use bait stations in your area. That is a good way sometimes to overcome the lack of funnel point's to set snare's. It is also a way to over come the lack of cover to break up the outline's of snare's.
I am afraid that I am unfamiliar with Nebraska but there must be some cover. Or is it like Southern Alberta not a tree or bush to be seen LOL.
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Post by Law Dog on Jun 18, 2011 12:29:33 GMT -5
Skinner if you use #9 wire you can wrap it tight around the stake just under the washer head and then point the last few inches downward. This will hold the #9 wire solid with the "wire spike" into the ground under the washer head and fit it inside the snare swivel to allow the snare swivel to work! I do the wrapping at the set to avoid them all getting tangled in the bucket, I have the tops already made up to save time! Can send pics if you need them no problem!
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Post by yoteskinner on Jun 18, 2011 13:34:29 GMT -5
Pictures would be great!!!
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Post by tmrschessie on Jun 18, 2011 14:51:14 GMT -5
YS...are there going to be cattle in the pasture while your trapping? Also, follow the tracks, a lot of times you can see where they go under the fence to walk on the other side in a different trail..good locations to pick them up with out snagging a deer or cow...Tom
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Post by Law Dog on Jun 18, 2011 16:02:09 GMT -5
Pictures would be great!!! Will get you some out tomorrow AM I am at work now!
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Post by Law Dog on Jun 19, 2011 8:26:38 GMT -5
[/img] Pictures would be great!!! [/quote [/img] Pic shows the #9 wire bent around the stake and pointing downward. This will hold the support in place and not mess with the snare swivel!
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Post by Law Dog on Jun 19, 2011 8:35:17 GMT -5
Pictures would be great!!! [/img] This shows how to hold the loop without clamping down in it making it hard to adjust. The "W" loop end allows for re-adjustment just by reweaving the cable and changing the loop size. By wrapping the cable around the support and then going through the "W" the cable is held tight without pinching the wire to the cable. This makes the set up fast easy and it can be readjusted without tools!!
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Post by yoteskinner on Jun 19, 2011 11:04:50 GMT -5
Thanx for the Pictures guys!! YS...are there going to be cattle in the pasture while your trapping? Also, follow the tracks, a lot of times you can see where they go under the fence to walk on the other side in a different trail..good locations to pick them up with out snagging a deer or cow...Tom All the Fields will have No cattle in them I"ll be snarin mid december and most guys have there herd closer to home..... Most ranchers want you to stay on there main trail roads (hound hunters round here have scared most rachers from lettin any one on there ground) So i guess my plan was to fallow the main roads and hang snares on every trail that meets up with the road.... From what i seen last year the yotes would come in on a trail fallow the roads for a while then head out on another trail.. Great info guys thanx very much!!! i hope i can connect with a few!!
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Post by Law Dog on Jun 19, 2011 12:13:57 GMT -5
Just make sure you pick up all them snares when your done don't want you to be "scaring" them ranchers either.Thats were the Gregerson locks are nice as they break away!!!
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Post by bill1958 on Jun 19, 2011 13:31:05 GMT -5
i take a ribbon and mark how many snares is on the trails ,you don't need a big one just the size you can see and read the number.also ever thought about kill poles ?,you can use 1/ 16 size cable with more catches and less problems if used with a kill pole.you can also use slide wires 1/8 and pull them off the trails and place a kill pole at the end .the yote will slide down the end and be dispatched at the kill pole and this will save your trails for repeated catches .
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