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Post by Forrest on Jun 19, 2011 21:24:10 GMT -5
IMO 50-75 would be a realistic number for a average guy on limited time and only 30 traps regardless of how much land there is... Now full time with 100 plus traps would be a whole different ballgame especially in OK... Again this is just my honest opinion many may disagree...
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Post by cdr on Jun 19, 2011 21:37:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies folks.....
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Post by redfoxtrap2008 on Jun 19, 2011 22:37:19 GMT -5
The job a part makes me think most of the numbers your hearing would take way more time than you have.
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Post by bill1958 on Jun 20, 2011 0:06:03 GMT -5
with the land scattered you may hit several different animal cross roads or what i call key locations and like i said if every thing is in your favor aprox 100 and maybe 120 but only if you work your butt off and don't slack off.cats no they travel changes to much ,some time they never come back threw or at least here or grey fox easy if you have the numbers to catch like here as thier home range is small but yotes whole different ball field they can threw you a curb ball at any point and time and you must stay focused every second on the line.watch the small details.if it was me i would goe in and slam urine post using yote,cat and fox urine and not at the same time.for a example if you use yote urine on a post and it connects put you another one at the edge of the catch circle and use fox or cat urine .another set could be a rub post why it's different and it takes less time to make just like a urine post.for you to pull this off and have a job you can't have any and i do mean any type of down time that is if you really have the yotes.
always remember this a few yotes can make just as much sign as a lot of yotes if they have a shorter home range.also remember this as well once deer season starts they head to thick cover and shy from fields some times ,after getting shot at they wise up real quick
these are curb balls you must watch for.watch the tracks at the set as well.any of these can blind side you and can change in a split second
have fun,good luck and get some rest lol you will need it (rest)
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Post by timberhippie on Jun 20, 2011 6:31:50 GMT -5
I would say Forrest is in the right ballpark.
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Post by lyonch on Jun 20, 2011 12:15:05 GMT -5
If this was one ranch and the boundaries were absolute, it is telling me that you will have 2 - 3 family groups. Say there are 3 family groups and each family had 5 pups. You cleaned house and took them all out, well that gives you 21 right there. Now there are transent coyotes that will be moving through as well, so i would adventure to guess you would take 10 of them on the higher side. so we are now at 31 coyotes. These numbers are if you cleaned house. Lets say that you did average. You picked up only a couple of the adults and most of the pups, you are looking at roughly 15 from the family groups then. you caught half of the transent coyotes, that makes the total 20 then. Running the edges of boundaries might also pick up another 10 coyotes for the average trapper. So in the end i would have to say 30 is a very realistic but yet respectable number! You can only catch what is there. Now if this was 10 - 500 acre farms that story is all again different. Your coyote density will play the biggest role in this equation if you ask me.
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Post by walkercoonhunter on Jun 20, 2011 13:14:10 GMT -5
two questions come to my mind in your explanation or circumstances...
id the 5000 acres all one area or is that figure spread out across the country and thats the total acres you have to trap....
2nd question that popped into my head is this...during that time frame your trapping is the deer rifle season also in...because i know in nebraska last year before deer rifle season the coyotes was plentyful but after it came in and about 2 weeks after the coyotes was very very scattered out and took more time to move into thier normal travel patterns again....
took 72 coyotes in 10 days last year with a partner before deer season...but had alot more than 5000 acres and alot more than 30 traps in the ground....
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Post by timberhippie on Jun 20, 2011 15:17:54 GMT -5
Lyonch that's an interesting point I never considered one solid property that size. Around here 3 to 5 hundred acres is huge. So I never considered that variable at all. This is a very tricky deal. Walker 72 in 10 days is a heck of a feat for two guys. Were youy running strictly footholds?
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Post by walkercoonhunter on Jun 20, 2011 17:35:03 GMT -5
yes i think we had 3-4 snares hung but only produced 2 coyotes....they was long days when adding the skinning time of all the animals caught...coons,badgers,skunks,and a few red fox.....im really glad he had a skinning machine....
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Post by cdr on Jun 20, 2011 17:52:23 GMT -5
lyonch and walkercoonhunter,
If you guys will re-read the thread, you will see that the land is scattered (I stated that a few different times). I will go into further detail and say that some of the parcels may be 8oo acres and some as small as 100 acres (different farms). Some may be across the road from each other and some will be 10 miles apart. Deer season will coincide with trapping season for the month of December. Very good comments guys....Keep 'em coming... cdr
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Post by ScottRainbolt on Jun 20, 2011 18:00:02 GMT -5
with them being scattered out you chances for the bigger numbers goes up cdr
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Post by cdr on Jun 20, 2011 18:01:20 GMT -5
with them being scattered out you chances for the bigger numbers goes up cdr yep
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Post by walkercoonhunter on Jun 20, 2011 19:21:30 GMT -5
cdr if it was me and i had say 3 farms togather or real close to each other(close enough to only hold 1 family group) i would look at the lay of the land and pick that 1 single best farm to set up...then move on...this is for the long term trapping.....
if i was wanting to get in and out i would saturate these 3 farms with lots of sets hammer them before they realize whats going on and move on....
when im trapping coyotes i think like scott....the more miles and family groups i have set up the more coyotes you can expect
you cant catch what isnt there....
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Post by lyonch on Jun 20, 2011 20:25:40 GMT -5
A realistic number with 30 traps on several parcels of land, i would think an average trapper should be able to take around 50 coyotes if the populations density is high.
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Post by cdr on Jun 20, 2011 20:28:01 GMT -5
Thanks guys...... Now for a new topic that I can pick your brain on....lol
Oh, by the way, I have a general consensus of what you guys figure an ave. trapper could do in this situation...I'm below average...lmao
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