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Post by cornfedcoon on Jun 25, 2011 8:25:10 GMT -5
I have a chance to buy about 35 assorted traps from a guy. He doesn't know anything about them but sent me a couple pictures. I noticed that there are some Herters #2's in the lot. Are those valuable? I'm just trying to figure out if I can cover my butt if there aren't any traps that I need to use.
Thanks
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Post by streamer on Jun 25, 2011 8:49:09 GMT -5
I noticed that there are some Herters #2's in the lot. Are those valuable? Thanks They don't have much collector value in monetary terms.
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Post by ewoktrapper on Jun 25, 2011 9:31:54 GMT -5
Put a mink pan on them and use them.......
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Post by redeagle on Jun 25, 2011 9:40:34 GMT -5
I don't know much about collector value. I know from experience the metal in them is too soft for them to be used as coyote traps!
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Post by cornfedcoon on Jun 25, 2011 12:23:00 GMT -5
Alright guys I am a little bummed about it. I need coon traps as I want to go after it harder this season but I don't want to use #2 traps on them.
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Post by bill1958 on Jun 25, 2011 13:54:26 GMT -5
cornfedcoon they do make a good coon trap for hind foot catches and even water sets.in fact some even use them for dry land sets
miss swiss had some herter number 3's for $5.00 each a while back.
i would not think twice to set a number two for coon on land or water.
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Post by cornfedcoon on Jun 25, 2011 21:34:58 GMT -5
Really? I heard that #2's are a little big because they catch too high, causing the coon to lose circulation and cause chewing. You haven't had problems with that? I could rig them up for drowners so that wouldn't happen though.
Thanks again for the help!
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Post by bill1958 on Jun 25, 2011 23:42:10 GMT -5
yes really some people thinks it's a over kill .put that trap on the tip of your finger and then on your finger half way up and let it set a while and look .now the number two will give extra room for chewing that i do agree with, but i learned from ray milligan that even a number 3 works good for coon when it's set up for a hind foot catch.i have used both and i see just as much chewing in a regular 1 1/2 coil as i do a number 2,now i don't run all number 2's for coon only but i have caught a lot of coon in number twos in canines and cat sets and have yet to lose a coon but remember this i am under a 24 hour check law.now also remember this if you use a bigger trap add at least three swivels to the chain which all your traps should have this set up.i am in no way saying it's the best coon trap but i am saying if it's set up right it will do the job .
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Post by cornfedcoon on Jun 26, 2011 0:22:44 GMT -5
Thanks or your input Bill!
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Post by redeagle on Jun 26, 2011 12:17:31 GMT -5
Coons are notorious for chewing front feet, regardless of how high or how low the jaws grip. Eventually, the foot gets numb. When that happens, they start chewing if they can get their mouth under the jaws. At one time, B&L made 1-1/2 single longsprings with a double jaw configuration. These were great for coons because after the coon had chewed off everything below the bottom jaw, he was still held by the swollen part of the foot that was held between the upper and lower jaws. I would say that if you are dry land trapping coons and you catch them by the front foot, you can expect to lose some through chewing, regardless of jaw spread, as long as you are using single jaw traps. I suggest that if you want to use the Herter's #2s for dry land coon, you find a welder who can weld on some double jaw attachments to the existing jaws. Shouldn't cost too much. In fact, you might be able to go to the local technical college or high school shop class and work out a deal with the instructor to have the welding done by students, at minimal cost to you- or they might even weld it for free, just to get the welding experience.
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Post by cornfedcoon on Jun 26, 2011 12:19:52 GMT -5
Thanks redeagle! I am pretty good friends with the shop teacher so I'll be sure to do that.
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Post by backwoodsman on Jun 28, 2011 0:46:40 GMT -5
Coons dont chew out of no.11's. Any amount of loss or foot damage is unnacceptable. This is what the anti's cruise our websites looking for. I cant even remember the last coon we cought with foot damage. Alot of older traps were made with a double jaw configuration but it was mainly for skunks then. Now days theyre made for coons and well worth the little increase in price. Watch your laws as some consider double jaws a projection and hince a toothed jaw and are illegal. If your going to use anything bigger then a 1.5 on coon, double jaw it or buy it that way. Even 1.5's I feel should be double jawed in most cases.
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Post by ewoktrapper on Jun 28, 2011 8:16:48 GMT -5
Woodsman
I agree and disagree.It all depends on the application used!!!If you take that #2 and put on a slide wire there is no damage.I use the old low lever #2 victors for mink.I use the baker mink pan on them.You can not find a better mink trap.For one the weight of the trap puts them down fast.Two- 8 times out of 10 it acts like a body gripper and they never move.Works the same way on M-rats also...My 2 cents worth...
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