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Post by deerlane on Feb 16, 2011 9:31:07 GMT -5
Either #3 Montana Special Coil Spring Trap or #2 Bridger Coil Spring Trap and why.
maybe I should chnage the question Dog or Dog Less type? How often will a dog throw a paw out?
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Post by bill1958 on Feb 16, 2011 17:23:51 GMT -5
I think the dogless vs dog-on is a bit over rated, but each side has their cheerleaders. Try this little experiment. Get a dog-on trap (don't matter the make or model). Set the trap and put it on the ground. Now take a hammer, and holding the hammer by the head, put the butt of the handle ON THE PAN SO THAT IT ALSO SITS ON THE TIP OF THE DOG. Then increase the pressure until the trap fires. The trap will throw the hammer handle out of the trap. This simulates when a critter (fox, cat, coyote) steps on BOTH the dog and the pan. If you experience a lot of traps fired, but the trap is still in the trap bed, then you have probably had this happen to you. Of course, you can avoid a lot of that by trap placement. One idea is to set your trap with the jaws in the 9 and 3 position, so the critter steps between the jaws, rather than over them. You can also set your trap with the free jaw closest to the animal's approach so that he steps over the free jaw instead of the dog-jaw. That's my two cents. i agree 100%
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Post by Forrest on Feb 16, 2011 18:35:19 GMT -5
I think the dogless vs dog-on is a bit over rated, but each side has their cheerleaders. Try this little experiment. Get a dog-on trap (don't matter the make or model). Set the trap and put it on the ground. Now take a hammer, and holding the hammer by the head, put the butt of the handle ON THE PAN SO THAT IT ALSO SITS ON THE TIP OF THE DOG. Then increase the pressure until the trap fires. The trap will throw the hammer handle out of the trap. This simulates when a critter (fox, cat, coyote) steps on BOTH the dog and the pan. If you experience a lot of traps fired, but the trap is still in the trap bed, then you have probably had this happen to you. Of course, you can avoid a lot of that by trap placement. One idea is to set your trap with the jaws in the 9 and 3 position, so the critter steps between the jaws, rather than over them. You can also set your trap with the free jaw closest to the animal's approach so that he steps over the free jaw instead of the dog-jaw. That's my two cents. i agree 100% X2
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Post by deerlane on Feb 16, 2011 19:47:54 GMT -5
Ok, if dogless is as good as dog-on, why don't we see more dogless type traps?
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Post by minnesotascott on Feb 16, 2011 20:06:59 GMT -5
Ok sorry as I know you asked about certian traps. But for myself a #3 dbls Victor or Newhouse.
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Post by bill1958 on Feb 16, 2011 20:48:05 GMT -5
Ok, if dogless is as good as dog-on, why don't we see more dogless type traps? when dogless first hit he market most people did not understand the concept and just like any other new trap on the market stayed clear of some thing they knew very little about.the dog on's was the first trap made and people under stood these and like the old saying goes if it's not broken then don't fix it.later a few people begin to understand the trap but the trap never really gain any major sales like the dog on .think on this would you make a trap that might make 100,000 or would you build a trap that would sale 500,000 ? you do the math
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