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Post by mntrapper on Apr 25, 2011 21:28:26 GMT -5
Guys I need some help I will be trapping in some knew ground this fall and it's rocky and ruff. How do you guys stake that trap in this stuff /what kind of disposable/ rebar stakes or do you guys use alot of drags any input would be great.thanks the traps will be set fro yotes/cats
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Post by redrooster on Apr 25, 2011 21:51:43 GMT -5
I have the same problem. I made some 20 inch pogo cable stakes and used them. I have even used them at an angle. I lost traps the two previous years but none this year. My soil is heavy clay with the shelf rock
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Post by redeagle on Apr 25, 2011 22:36:56 GMT -5
Here's how I do it. I had bought a bunch of electric fence posts (they are 4' long, are painted yellow, and have a triangular wedge welded on them 1' from the bottom. I sawed off 3' lengths of the smooth rod to use to make homemade grapples. I tried to figure out what to do with the leftover 1' pieces with the triangles on them. I came up with this. I cut a 1' section of 7x7x3/32 snare cable. I then bend the piece of cable in half and I slip the two ends into the two holes of a double ferrule. Then, I slide the double ferrule as far up as I can, to form a small loop in the middle of the cable. (I make sure the two ends of the cable are even with each other.) I hammer this double ferrule shut to hold the little loop in place. Then, I take one end of the cable and pass it through one of the holes in the triangle of the rod. Next, I put on a washer and then an aluminum stop and hammer the stop shut. Then, I take the other cable end and pass it through another triangle, put on a washer and hammer an aluminum stop on that end. What I have now is two 1' stakes, connected with a cable. I attach a quick link in the loop in the center of the cable. On location, I drive one of the stakes partially into the ground and then stretch the cable its full length and begin driving the other stake in the ground. I alternate driving first one stake, then the other, until the tops of the triangles are just even or slightly below the surface of the ground. I attach my trap chain to the quick link and am good to go. I use long (8') chains on my traps, so when the animals tug on the chain, they are pulling sideways instead of upwards. Even if it was a short chain and they were pulling up, they would be pulling only on the center of the cable, instead of directly against the stakes, themselves. This works in my soil conditions. I have also used two criss-crossed log house spikes (those 1' long nails they sell at farm stores for constructing log homes) driven through a crunch proof swivel at 45 degree angles and short chained my traps and they held everything but coyotes. Even though coyotes occasionally pumped out these log spikes, they didn't get away very far, because I had extension chains with grapples attached and they would tangle up in short order. I hope this post is clear- I don't know how to go about posting drawings.
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Post by redeagle on Apr 26, 2011 7:58:45 GMT -5
Take advantage of tie-offs when trees and brush are available; or cut a sapling and use it for a drag. That way, you won't have to drive any kind of stakes.
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Post by redrooster on Apr 26, 2011 8:42:14 GMT -5
Drags are great redeagle, but the ground is such that tracking the critter and the drag is nearly impossible. Plus the tracking time is too costly time wise. I do tie off to roots and trees where possible or I have used logs that are too big for the critters to drag and that works well.
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Post by desertrat on Apr 26, 2011 19:21:33 GMT -5
wedge your drag in the rocks will work fine for cats a cut pole from a tree will also work as some mentioned.
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Post by scheide on May 17, 2011 20:38:44 GMT -5
When I trapped in s.w.Texas I trapped in very rocky ground. I used 2 -12" stakes, crossed staked. Never lost an animal.
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Post by Law Dog on May 17, 2011 20:44:19 GMT -5
In AZ we used a lot of drags with longer chains and they were very HD so it left a good trail and hooked up quick. I also put the chain in a hole at the front of the drag not over it to avoid it fowling up!
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Post by minnesotascott on May 17, 2011 21:17:29 GMT -5
Drags are not legal here, and the bedrock is just 6" under loose topsoil. I drilled holes and used a 2 part epoxy. Filled the drill hole with the epoxy then pounded in and Eye bolt. Lots of work, but I will use the same set loactions next season.
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Post by ScottRainbolt on May 18, 2011 5:40:24 GMT -5
what i do when its to rocky is just use a cable tie off
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Post by lyonch on May 18, 2011 8:25:42 GMT -5
You guys use a lot of good ideas! For some reason when i get into a rocky ground, i just use tie offs. This normally consists of what there is available (tree stump, a large rock, etc etc.)
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Post by bill1958 on May 18, 2011 14:06:47 GMT -5
weld you a j hook on the side of a rail road spike and drive the spike in to the rock i use this on some of my rocky water lines
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