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Post by jdpaint on May 30, 2011 21:56:40 GMT -5
Do you do lure/bait tests on areas not part of your trapline? I have stopped doing any tests where I plan on trapping except for grease. I have been thinking the curiosity part of the lure is gone if put out before season.Come trapping season the same family groups/young of the year have allready worked the test site.I also wonder if this also cause the 1 print in the pattern and then leave or the late season sets finally get worked by a new coyote or fox into the area.I have been told once lured ,always lured. Sometimes I think this is a reason why I believe some lures dont work. I am undecided about testing rub lures pre- season.Any thoughts, comments?
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Post by ScottRainbolt on May 30, 2011 22:03:59 GMT -5
i can see your point on testing lures on a dirt hole or cubby type set but imo if the rub lure works it turns that post from a rub set to a rub station that will become part of there normal rout and used all the time
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Post by jdpaint on May 30, 2011 22:09:44 GMT -5
Good point Scott . I have used straight castor as a rub pre -season. Do you think there is a lick or chew reaction also involved with a rub set? I always have wondered what some ingredients taste like. Would you try some castor and let me know how it is? LOL
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Post by Law Dog on May 30, 2011 22:10:32 GMT -5
I guess its not a big problem here as we have lots of yotes so if one goes by another one will come along! I don't have the time to test lures and baits so I add some new change up stuff every year and see how it will work for me. If it works I just rotate a lure out and try a new one next year! I wish I had the time to test more but its not in the cards for me, just lucky to have the yotes so its not needed!!!!
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Post by bill1958 on May 30, 2011 22:27:10 GMT -5
jd as a lure maker that must test a new product i never test were i plan on trapping because i don't want to lose the coursity factor but if the needs to be tested in a area i trap i only pick one small location as all i need to know is how the animal will respond and after that it's good till season starts now on gland lures,food lure and rub lures it want matter .why the gland lures are canine odors,the food lure acts as a food but with this i always add a little fresh bait and with rub lures they react like scat said.there is a different addvantage of testing lures .how ? the canine works the set and has no problems ,come season they let the guard down and that helps you.now on coursity lures i would never ever test it were i plan on setting because once they smell the odor then yes you lose the coursity factor
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Post by ScottRainbolt on May 31, 2011 6:15:20 GMT -5
jd i made up a rub lure last month to try out this year i catch my dogs at least once a week down there rolling where i ground it up (my grinder leaks a little out the back) i even got down to see if i could smell what they where rolling in and i cant smell anything but still 2 out of 3 dogs (#3 bear is kinda prissy lol) make atrip down there at least once aweek that i see them doing to roll on something i cant smell
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Post by bill1958 on May 31, 2011 12:39:38 GMT -5
scott sounds like the rub lure will indeed work ,because if the dogs is that happy with it so will the wild canine.when they keep coming back thats what you want in a lure .
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Post by Ohio on May 31, 2011 19:56:02 GMT -5
I do test at the same places i trap. What i never do is this. I do not put the lure in the dirt. I always use a deep hole and a lure holder. When i am done i want to take the lure with me. I don't want the animals to become accustomed to the smell. Sometimes they will dig it up and carry it off but i guess that's a good thing. I use Shank lure holders. How many times have you set up a place in November, caught a few and it went dead so you pulled. Go back in January and it looks like a bomb went off. Those canines can smell.
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Post by bigtwinhd on Jun 6, 2011 19:42:24 GMT -5
I was thinking about this post just a few minutes ago, as I was stuffing a chunk of tainted beaver meat I mixed with bait solution over a year ago down a hole. And setting up the game camera.
I justify it by reasoning that the second coyote that visits the site will know he missed something. Some other critter must have gotten it first. He won't have any steel jumping at him so he won't associate it with danger, just a missed meal. I bet my labs find it first anyway.....
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