Post by walkercoonhunter on Jan 28, 2013 23:05:58 GMT -5
hello fellows im doing this post to possibly make some guys aware of the conibear traps and the way it works and the differences in a few of them..i dont think guys using them realize just how much tension a straight out of the boxhas when tested at the dog and not on the ends of the wires..this will also show some differences in dogs and such that make a GIANTdifference in pan tension's and help explain why some guys file thier dogs or start thier dogs when setting the conibear traps...this information is needed for those of you who may be intrested in going to the coni pans that dont use the factory trigger wires or connectors..
ok lets get this started here
i have run tests on 4 different traps in all, one not pictuerd is the bridger 120, because i had to take a spring off the 120 to make it a 110 because no one currently has a 110 bridger in stock...
lets start this with the pan tensions when pressure is directly applied to the dog without the leverage of the wires..
the tension is listed on the pic for comparison purposes..and i must stress this,ALL TRAPS ARE BRAND NEW AND SET ON A FULL NOTCH
and now the different dogs from the tester traps..
now for the reason why thes traps are so greatly different for other reasons other than spring strength..I will show you the differences in the depth of the jaw notch..
as you can see that the way the dog notch is made plays a big part in how the trap will operate as well as pan tension's...
so i have installed my new mink pans on all of these traps and have done the tension test on them as well..ALL TRAPS BRAND NEW AND SET ON FULL NOTCH..
i took a reading in the center of the pan on the point of the "W" and then at the very end of the pans...i did these readings 5 times each in each spot and then averaged them.
the way the tab in the pan is setting on the dog on the bridgers and vics
and then the sleepycreek
here are the results
Bridger 120; center 9 lbs 10 oz end of the pan 4 lbs
Bridger 110; center 3 lbs 8 oz, end of the pan 1 lbs 8 oz
Victor 120; center 1 lbs 12 oz end of the pan 4 oz
Victor 110; center 1 lbs 15 oz end of the pan 1 lb***
sleepy 450; center 1 lb 4 oz end of the pan 3oz
*** after i noticed the higher 110 vic readings than the 120 vic readings i did some inspecting of the problem and found a bur on the notch of the 110 vic..but due to honest comparison i left it as is for the testing..
the end review of all these traps is soley my opinion and what i have found with the 1 trap of each i received..
Bridger 110/120 overall nice trap strong springs.The jaw rivets was nice and snug and didnt have any slop in them even when the trap was un-set i believe thats due to the washer between the 2 jaws.
however i did notice the jaws was wavy and not straight like the other traps.. shown below
i think the bridger 110/120 is a nice trap but room for improvement on the dog notches and the straightness of the jaws...
Victor 110/120
over all another good trap,strong springs,the jaw rivets was loose but not real sloppy but did have a bit of play in them even when in the set position.the rivets had some excess sticking out on the inside of the jaws but not a big amount..
the jaws was good and uniform and straight
as stated before this trap is a nice trap but could use the rivets upgraded or a washer added like the bridger to reduce the sloppy rivet..thier dogs need to be inspected (as all name brands need to be)so the burr if present can be removed..
Sleepy Creek 450..
spring strength is good,rivets are very sloppy even in the set position,lots of extra rivet sticking out on the inside of the trap.this trap may not fit your coni stabilizers depending on what type you use due to the placement of the small humps in the jaws..thier dog notch is superior..but could get rid of a little meat in the width of the dog..
jaw rivet shown below
the jaws on these as well was straight and well formed..
as stated at the top these traps was all brand new never set,never tampered with in any way except to add the pans..
ok lets get this started here
i have run tests on 4 different traps in all, one not pictuerd is the bridger 120, because i had to take a spring off the 120 to make it a 110 because no one currently has a 110 bridger in stock...
lets start this with the pan tensions when pressure is directly applied to the dog without the leverage of the wires..
the tension is listed on the pic for comparison purposes..and i must stress this,ALL TRAPS ARE BRAND NEW AND SET ON A FULL NOTCH
and now the different dogs from the tester traps..
now for the reason why thes traps are so greatly different for other reasons other than spring strength..I will show you the differences in the depth of the jaw notch..
as you can see that the way the dog notch is made plays a big part in how the trap will operate as well as pan tension's...
so i have installed my new mink pans on all of these traps and have done the tension test on them as well..ALL TRAPS BRAND NEW AND SET ON FULL NOTCH..
i took a reading in the center of the pan on the point of the "W" and then at the very end of the pans...i did these readings 5 times each in each spot and then averaged them.
the way the tab in the pan is setting on the dog on the bridgers and vics
and then the sleepycreek
here are the results
Bridger 120; center 9 lbs 10 oz end of the pan 4 lbs
Bridger 110; center 3 lbs 8 oz, end of the pan 1 lbs 8 oz
Victor 120; center 1 lbs 12 oz end of the pan 4 oz
Victor 110; center 1 lbs 15 oz end of the pan 1 lb***
sleepy 450; center 1 lb 4 oz end of the pan 3oz
*** after i noticed the higher 110 vic readings than the 120 vic readings i did some inspecting of the problem and found a bur on the notch of the 110 vic..but due to honest comparison i left it as is for the testing..
the end review of all these traps is soley my opinion and what i have found with the 1 trap of each i received..
Bridger 110/120 overall nice trap strong springs.The jaw rivets was nice and snug and didnt have any slop in them even when the trap was un-set i believe thats due to the washer between the 2 jaws.
however i did notice the jaws was wavy and not straight like the other traps.. shown below
i think the bridger 110/120 is a nice trap but room for improvement on the dog notches and the straightness of the jaws...
Victor 110/120
over all another good trap,strong springs,the jaw rivets was loose but not real sloppy but did have a bit of play in them even when in the set position.the rivets had some excess sticking out on the inside of the jaws but not a big amount..
the jaws was good and uniform and straight
as stated before this trap is a nice trap but could use the rivets upgraded or a washer added like the bridger to reduce the sloppy rivet..thier dogs need to be inspected (as all name brands need to be)so the burr if present can be removed..
Sleepy Creek 450..
spring strength is good,rivets are very sloppy even in the set position,lots of extra rivet sticking out on the inside of the trap.this trap may not fit your coni stabilizers depending on what type you use due to the placement of the small humps in the jaws..thier dog notch is superior..but could get rid of a little meat in the width of the dog..
jaw rivet shown below
the jaws on these as well was straight and well formed..
as stated at the top these traps was all brand new never set,never tampered with in any way except to add the pans..
